Wednesday, November 11, 2009

How do you get the 7000 years from Noah to the End?

Mr. Campings case for the basis of his timeline:
2 Peter chapter 3:8
"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Then...

Genesis 7:4
"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth"

So.. going against the rule that scripture must compare with scripture Mr. Camping built his entire story off of these two pieces of scripture. He states that the words god spoke to Noah about 7 days can be converted into 7 x 1000 OR 7000 years because in 2 Peter 3:8 God said that a day is like a thousand years.

Wait! What is that I see in Genisis 7:4, something about 40 days? Are you thinking what Im thinking? God made it rain for 40 thousand years? How can Mr. Camping take a part of a scripture and apply his thousand years to what helps him most but not to another item that would blow it away? Because he is a false prophet that manipulates the word of god. God told Noah to get into the arc in seven days because he was going to die drowned like the rest of them if he did not. God didnt want Noah to die like that, he just wanted to clense the Earth and repopulate it with Noahs seed.

Nothing you do will save you?

Mr. Camping always insists that there is nothing you can do that will insure you are saved. This is because god saved his people before the foundation of the world.
Pretty simple concept. If the list is already made and the sins are payed for then one would think there is no possibility of being added to that list once it is made.

Well.... Mr. Camping got cornered last night, 11/10/09. He was asked why he says there is nothing we can to to insure we are saved but he also says that if you dont believe that the end is 21 may 2011 then you are suredly NOT saved. This tells me that the inverse is true, if you do believe this then you may be saved, it does not assure you of this but this seems to be a condition of being one of the elect. Which according to Mr. Camping means that you are not to depend upon your faith in Jesus Christ, God, the commandments, the word of god nor any other concievable thing, but the prediction of may 21, 2011.... sure, why not, it says in the bible that those that know the time must profess their knowledge.... but at the same time it says those that believe in me will be saved... so which part of this testimony should we believe?

All of it, the word of god is infallible.
Mr. Camping is bending the words of god to fit his aggenda, as we all know.
The word of god even talks about this, the false prophet that will use the word to begile the people....

Monday, November 2, 2009

Camping joke: "Who can eat more chicken McNuggets, God or Zeus?"

Haha, funniest thing ever, some guy is all serious asking Harold about this and that, confessions and whatever then he pops the big question: @54:25 on the 10/27/09 episode "who do you think could eat more chicken mcnuggets, God or Zeus"
Harold stopped the call with the excuse that he couldnt understand the caller.
Too funny.
Here is the episode: http://worldwide.familyradio.org/asxgen.php?url=/forum/2009/october/forum_1027.wma

Camping insult: "I think your full of crap"

In the 10-28-09 @1:14:30 time mark of the open forum radio show someone called in and when offered to ask a question they shouted "I think your full of crap".

I thought it was pretty funny, haha.
I wonder how many minutes he wasted for that?

Here is a link to the episode
http://worldwide.familyradio.org/asxgen.php?url=/forum/2009/october/forum_1028.wma

Limits on punishment means no eternal damnation?

God said no more then 40 lashes, Mr. Camping believes this is to be used to mean that there is a limit on all forms of punishment no matter what the crime/sin is, it does not necessarily mean you should be beaten 40 times with a wet noodle because you stole an apple. BUT what this is being used for is to say there is no eternal damnation in hell.


Deuteronomy 25:2-3
2 And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his fault, by a certain number.
3 Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed: lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then thy brother should seem vile unto thee.

Open forum question: Why did god create the world and its people only to destroy it?

Someone called in and asked Mr. Camping a very precise question.
"Mr. Camping, Why did god create the world and its people only to destroy it?"
He referred to the following bible verses and left it at that.
I dont get the reasoning %100 but I believe he means that there are other beings we are not aware of that are observing us as if we were gods project.... go figure.

Paul speaking to the Gentiles:
Ephesians 3:10
8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:
12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.
13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.